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John Curvis
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:08 pm    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

My Riley steering rack on my Olympic is very rough lock to lock, stripped it down but can't see anything major wrong. Cleaned and re greased but still very rough is there anything else i can do.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:33 am    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John, Did you resolve the issue?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: steering rack Reply with quote

John Curvis wrote:
My Riley steering rack on my Olympic is very rough lock to lock, stripped it down but can't see anything major wrong. Cleaned and re greased but still very rough is there anything else i can do.

Hi John
Have you checked it's wear against spec and serviced it using a Riley 1.5 Workshop Manual? There is good availability on Ebay.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to get a Riley workshop manual, when i undo the large dome nut and fit some more shims under the pad it is less rough but i think there are now to many shims fitted
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John
I have emailed you a digital copy of the Steering Section, to get you through this until you get a hard copy.
Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:19 pm    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John, A bit of bedtime reading.

https://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/topic/322176-steering-rack-overhaul-uk-type-mkii/

I know your rack is from a Riley and this is Mini but i bet they are not too different.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an excellent guide - well done for posting it Dave.
I agree, it is universal knowledge that can be applied to other racks.
If only we had a full set of guides like this for the Rochdales Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:36 pm    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John / Alan
One of the standout things for me is the use of EP 80/90 oil as opposed to grease for lubrication of the rack.
Thinking carefully about it, it makes perfect sense.

Not being familiar with Riley / MM parts I can't be certain but I suspect that The Riley rack is not far off the Mini one described in the link. I think all BMC/BL of the era used either Cam Gears or Burman? manufactured racks.

Perhaps John will let us know when he sorts his rack.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dave for the information, i have only used grease in the rack so i think i will try some oil and see if that helps
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Curvis wrote:
Thanks Dave for the information, i have only used grease in the rack so i think i will try some oil and see if that helps


Going to have another go at my rough rack, i think some one has removed too many shims from the pinion and that is why it is tight my problem is i can't find any pinon shims.does any one have any spare ones. thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John,
If you can let us know the sizes maybe someone may have something suitable. I have a tin full of various sizes that have been accumulated over the years.
It might help if you could give a little history about the rack, ie. was it fitted to the car and working, was it in a pile of bits with a restoration case, or does it look as if someone has been "at it"
I am sure someone will be able to help.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: steering rack Reply with quote

Dave-M wrote:
John,
If you can let us know the sizes maybe someone may have something suitable. I have a tin full of various sizes that have been accumulated over the years.
It might help if you could give a little history about the rack, ie. was it fitted to the car and working, was it in a pile of bits with a restoration case, or does it look as if someone has been "at it"
I am sure someone will be able to help.

Regards, Dave


Hi Dave
The rack came fitted to the car, and i removed it to repair the Ft. subframe, when refitted it seemed rough lock to lock i have spaced out the spring loaded damper but i had to far to many shims to make it smooth. If i had some shims i would remove the rack again and try again but i can't find any shims so there is no point removing it again until i have found some shims
thanks for your help john
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:33 pm    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John,
Are these any good to you?

https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/mini-steering-rack-shim-packx10-27h8468.html

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: steering rack Reply with quote

Dave-M wrote:
John,
Are these any good to you?

https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/mini-steering-rack-shim-packx10-27h8468.html

Regards, Dave

Thanks Dave but it is the pinion shims i need
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:48 am    Post subject: steering rack Reply with quote

John, How are you getting on with your Steering Rack problem?

I found these links that might be worth a look. Let us know how you get on if you decide to have a look at them.

https://www.kileyclinton.com/default.aspx

https://steering-racks.co.uk/

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